2024 PC build!

I made it down to the new MC in Charlotte today. OMG that place is amazing. Bought my son a new HP ENVY Laptop pretty well loaded for a grand. My wife and I got complementary MC coffee mugs for their grand opening today.

I'm currently putting together a plan for my own desktop build. In addition to the insane AMD chips I posted above I saw the Lian Li stuff for the first time today. Very impressive. I fell in love with the HYTE Y70 case.

Will head back in a few weeks and buy the components to build with. Thinking about doing something like this ...

 
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It's amazing, isn't it? I think the Charlotte location is their biggest store in the country right now, which is no surprise considering it's their newest.

Their sales staff knowledge and customer service are unparalleled in this retail segment as well, although what competition is even left for them anymore? Best Buy? We're fortunate Micro Center is still around, thriving, and not mismanaged to hell like Fry's and CompUSA were.

They also sell 3D printers too, though none anywhere near large enough to print a '97 cluster surround.
 
It's amazing, isn't it? I think the Charlotte location is their biggest store in the country right now, which is no surprise considering it's their newest.

Their sales staff knowledge and customer service are unparalleled in this retail segment as well, although what competition is even left for them anymore? Best Buy? We're fortunate Micro Center is still around, thriving, and not mismanaged to hell like Fry's and CompUSA were.

They also sell 3D printers too, though none anywhere near large enough to print a '97 cluster surround.

Yes! Incredible store. I've been to their Kansas City location and I don't think the CLT store is any larger but it may be just a bit bigger. Their staff were very friendly and helpful. They tried to up-sell me on extended service plans and NORD VPN. I politely said, no thanks.

The store is nice but the location is shit. I think they moved in there because the rent was cheap. The place was packed. I'll definitely be back.

Speaking of 3D Printing, that's not my thing but they had several printers on display and an unlimited supply of 3D printing material, toner, or whatever it's called in every color imaginable. There are fab shops in the Charlotte area that do printing. I've considered getting in touch with one of them about printing cluster surrounds but that's really low on my priorities list.
 
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Yes! Incredible store. I've been to their Kansas City location and I don't think the CLT store is any larger but it may be just a bit bigger. Their staff were very friendly and helpful. They tried to up-sell me on extended service plans and NORD VPN. I politely said, no thanks.

The store is nice but the location is shit. I think they moved in there because the rent was cheap. The place was packed. I'll definitely be back.

Speaking of 3D Printing, that's not my thing but they had several printers on display and an unlimited supply of 3D printing material, toner, or whatever it's called in every color imaginable. There are fab shops in the Charlotte area that do printing. I've considered getting in touch with one of them about printing cluster surrounds but that's really low on my priorities list.
Yeah, I remember reading similar comments about the location. Looks like it was a way for them to get a foot in the door in the CLT market. I hope they do well. There aren't many times when I actively root for a corporation, but the PC building hobby needs them to do well.

It's funny how NordVPN has been shilling their services everywhere. I hope they're paying MC well for the promo. I have a VPN subscription from before they got popular, but it sure isn't NordVPN or any of the other brands that spend more on marketing than service quality.
 
What? Only 7,680 x 2,160. I’m holding out for a planetarium level viewing experience.

All joking aside, it is an impressive monitor. Thanks for sharing the article.
 
The price for that 57" is going to be astronomical. Getting dual 4K monitors would be more cost-effective and practical under most circumstances.

For gaming purposes, that monitor is 8K. You practically have to get an RTX 4090 to go with it.

I don't like the idea of a 32:9 aspect ratio ultrawide though. In most use cases, it takes away the ability for you to set up a secondary monitor due to its massive physical footprint. As someone with both an ultrawide and a secondary monitor, I consider the secondary monitor to be more practical.
 
Ron, this is what I bought for my friend mark:


Product DescriptionSavingsTotal Price
2
Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 2TB PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 3D2, QLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEKNW020T8X1
Form Factor: M.2 2280 Capacity: 2TB Memory Components: 3D NAND
Item #:N82E16820167461
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$449.98
1
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3955WX 3.9 GHz Socket sWRX8 100-100000167WOF Desktop Processor
Item #:N82E16819113673
Return Policy: Replacement Only Return Policy
$1,149.99
$1,148.99
1
ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI sWRX8 Extended ATX AMD Motherboard
CPU Socket Type: sWRX8
Item #:N82E16813119391
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$999.99
8
HyperX Fury RGB HX436C17FB3A/8 8GB DDR4 3600Mhz Non ECC Memory RAM DIMM
Capacity: 8GB Type: 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM Speed: DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) CAS Latency: 17 Color: Black LED Color: RGB Fan Included: No Option: N/A
Item #:2KY-0009-000Z8
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$583.92
1$558.38
4
Kingston 32GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model HX432C16FB3/32
Capacity: 32GB Type: 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM Speed: DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CAS Latency: 16 Color: Black
Item #:9SIAH41E2G5031
Sold by Easternstar


the processor is 24 core, with hyperthreading.

2x 2TB nvme ssd's.
32gb of ddr4 dram
I'd sdd a big hd, 12tb or so, for main storage.
This setup will edit video from hell.
Any Nvidia 3070 or better will do fine.
$869.44
Grand Total:$4,610.70
 
I’m on vacation the next two weeks. I’ll dig back into this when I get home. Thanks for all of your input.
 
Does the guy that travels all the time travel far for his Vacation? I do miss 6 weeks of paid vacation. I bet you have miles out the wazoo. :)
 
Ron, this is what I bought for my friend mark:


Product DescriptionSavingsTotal Price
2
Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 2TB PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 3D2, QLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEKNW020T8X1
Form Factor: M.2 2280 Capacity: 2TB Memory Components: 3D NAND
Item #:N82E16820167461
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$449.98
1
AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3955WX 3.9 GHz Socket sWRX8 100-100000167WOF Desktop Processor
Item #:N82E16819113673
Return Policy: Replacement Only Return Policy
$1,149.99
$1,148.99
1
ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI sWRX8 Extended ATX AMD Motherboard
CPU Socket Type: sWRX8
Item #:N82E16813119391
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$999.99
8
HyperX Fury RGB HX436C17FB3A/8 8GB DDR4 3600Mhz Non ECC Memory RAM DIMM
Capacity: 8GB Type: 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM Speed: DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) CAS Latency: 17 Color: Black LED Color: RGB Fan Included: No Option: N/A
Item #:2KY-0009-000Z8
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$583.92
1$558.38
4
Kingston 32GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model HX432C16FB3/32
Capacity: 32GB Type: 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM Speed: DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) CAS Latency: 16 Color: Black
Item #:9SIAH41E2G5031
Sold by Easternstar


the processor is 24 core, with hyperthreading.

2x 2TB nvme ssd's.
32gb of ddr4 dram
I'd sdd a big hd, 12tb or so, for main storage.
This setup will edit video from hell.
Any Nvidia 3070 or better will do fine.
$869.44
Grand Total:$4,610.70
Looks like that is a 16c/32t CPU; the 24core/48t CPU is the Threadripper Pro 5965WX
- No CPU fan is specified.
- Why spec in 2x PCIE3 drives when PCIE4 drives exist now & both that CPU+MBD support 128 lanes of PCIE4.0?
- That motherboard also supports 8x DIMM slots but up to 2TB (in theory -- modules don't exist yet). If you only rock 64GB of RAM (which is plenty for most consumer applications), why not spec in 16GB or 32GB modules?
 
One reason I go with more smaller capacity DIMMs to achieve a given total capacity is the lower latency on DIMMs of a smaller size. Though I'm also mindful of the potential need to upgrade in the future so I usually try to leave half the slots free so I can double up later.
 
There are two modules in that list; I let my buddy decide. The 32 gb one has the rainbow lights on it, lol. We used a huge $200 Noctua cooler. It was massive overkill, without overclocking. I'm partial to heat pipe coolers. They don't heat saturate like water eventually does. I've boiled a water cooler, with a 300mm radiator, lol. That was a socket 2011 oc at 5GHZ; It drew 250W for about 10 minutes, until I realized my error. FSB @100, multiplier to 51, lol. That processor would boot to windows at 120fsb, with a 51 multiplier. :) @300W. He ended up with a 4090 video card. I think it was $5k.
I do that too, Brandon. I'm just happy memory isn't $50 a MB like it was in the 80's, lol. The first 16MB set I bought was $500. The 64 GB in my main rig would be expensive!
I usually buy a system, then refresh it after a couple of years, but If I notice a big drop in prices on something like memory or processors, I upgrade. I've got a huge processor collection. :) Mostly from upgrades. There are some really great xeon upgrades for older systems, from socket 774 up.The 8 core processor in my main system was $4000+ new. :) I paid $100 for it. 16 cores, with hyperthreading. It's unlocked multiplier, and runs great at 4.6GHz
 
Is there a reason for the workstation CPUs?

Unless there were needs for additional I/O, PCI-E lanes, or 8-channel memory, most users won't benefit from a 16-core Threadripper or Threadripper Pro when the top-end Ryzen 9 not only matches the core and thread count but also clocks higher. The 3955WX was worse than the Ryzen 9 3950X in every way. I had been casually planning a new build for years, and the only time I considered a Threadripper was back in the Zen+ days (Ryzen 2000 series) when Ryzen 9 didn't exist yet. After it did, I couldn't justify getting a Threadripper anymore.

Workstation builds are cool, but not a wise investment for the vast majority of PC users who don't know what to do with all that I/O. In terms of pure CPU performance, a 24C/48T Threadripper Pro 5965WX is nearly matched by the 16C/32T Ryzen 9 7950X in multi-core and gets trounced in single-core from the generational uplift of Zen 4.
 
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That was what we built two years ago. stuff has changed. But I always build workstations. I always wanted my computer being better than whatever corporate crap was on my desk. It worked until ~2016; my new desktop at work was a dual 16 core HP workstation. I never built a better one.
My main program at work was Mentor Graphics expedition pcb design software. It sucked, and had the same bugs as some 1980's win 3.11 programs. The calculations it did for impedance were wrong, and fixing it was tough.
 
Seems like a waste of money these days. Back when Intel ruled the desktop market and artificially kept core counts maxed at 4, workstation builds made sense. AMD shook up the desktop market with the Zen architecture in 2017 and made high core counts a thing for desktop builds. Ryzen 9 in 2019 made low-end Threadrippers useless for home users.

As far as I'm concerned, for pure computational power, Threadrippers only begin to make sense at 32C/64T, because even the 24C/48T parts will be matched in multicore and trounced in single-core by the next generation 16C/32T Ryzen 9 CPU a year later for half the cost, and also a third to a half of the cost on the motherboard as well if the extra I/O won't be utilized.

Your PC is only as fast as the slowest part of the I/O subsystem, which is always going to be your system storage. Given that, a Threadripper paired with Intel 660p SSDs did that build no favors. The 660p was an affordable high-capacity NVMe SSD, but it used QLC NAND and maxed out at half of the available PCI-E 3.0 x4 throughput when you had PCI-E 4.0 at your disposal.
 
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It also had 2x 2tb nvme ssds. And a huge std sata drive.12tb, iirc.
I designed with flash memory. When it dies from being written too many times, it's possible to get it to work again, as new, by baking it to 160C in a halt/hass chamber. :)
 

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