1993 and 1995 Mark VIII; 25JUL25

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Especially the 93 with black interior is exceptionally clean. Need anything, please send a personal message asap. No, I won't get you the drive shaft.

 

[theterminator93]

How about the black fuse panel cover?

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Is that the same shape as yours?

 

[theterminator93]

I believe so. That part of the dash didn't really change between gen 1 and gen 2.

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Ok, I'll pick that up.

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Are these j-hook arms worth anything?

 

[AdamG]

Those are one thing I always grab when I see them. Allows you to use newer style blades and sits lower. I prefer the Bosch icon blades and they need that hook type.

 

[Stanley]

Yeah, those wiper arms are desired.

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Those are one thing I always grab when I see them.

Yeah, those wiper arms are desired.

Didn't pick them up, though I may go back. They look as if they'd make the blades sit too low though (?). The Thunderbird arms have a distinct upward kink.

 

[XR7-4.6]

MN12s and FN10s use the same cowl/windshield so even though they appear different they are a direct fit.

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

MN12s and FN10s use the same cowl/windshield so even though they appear different they are a direct fit.

I hear you, but...

I wonder if they need to be installed without the tiny black plastic keys.

The Mark arms are angled differently. They point up from the anchor point, whereas MN12 go straight to the right, then up. I wonder if the small indent on the hub, where the black plastic key goes into, is positioned differently (?).

 

[AdamG]

I've never used those keys, me and 5 of my buddies all run these arms, never an issue, look better and seem to actually perform better as well...

 

[XR7-4.6]

Mine doesn’t have those keys from the factory

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

I've never used those keys, me and 5 of my buddies all run these arms, never an issue, look better and seem to actually perform better as well...

Mine doesn’t have those keys from the factory

...but isn't there a risk without those keys that the wiper arm become dislodged on the hub?


Meanwhile, I picked up one pair today. Tested them on my car, and yes,  with the black tiny key thingies, the wiper would sit on the cowl grille. So they can only be used without. I couldn't pick up the other pair because the heat was just unbearable. Not sure yet if I want this pair for myself or sell it. I kind of lile how the pin-style stock arms sit lower, behind the blade, invisible from the interior; the Mark arms come in on top of the blade, so they're in your line of sight.

 

[theterminator93]

The hub is splined, no way IMO that it could jump free with the amount of torque available from the motor through the mechanism.

Marks also have a parked position that the MN12s don't - when off they sit in about the same place the parked MN12 wipers sit but when they're on they rest a few inches above the parked position for a shorter, faster sweep across the windshield.

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Marks also have a parked position that the MN12s don't - when off they sit in about the same place the parked MN12 wipers sit but when they're on they rest a few inches above the parked position for a shorter, faster sweep across the windshield.

Interesting! Wonder how that works mechanically.

 

[jco1385]

Those Ebony seat belts are a must-have for a 94+ MN12 black interior swap. It may be worth grabbing those, the outer-most vent assemblies (the curved ones), and the visors if they are in good shape.

How faded is the carpet?

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Those Ebony seat belts are a must-have for a 94+ MN12 black interior swap. It may be worth grabbing those, the outer-most vent assemblies (the curved ones), and the visors if they are in good shape.

How faded is the carpet?

I only took the front seat belts which were requested. Didn't take the vents. Visors were actually gone when I got there the first time. The carpet, like everything on this car, was clean and not faded at all.

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Interesting! Wonder how that works mechanically.

Anyone?

I mean, in the MN12, my understanding is the motor only turns in one direction, while the wiper "transmission"/regulator produces the back/forth motion.

Assuming the wiper transmission in the Mark is the same, does that mean that the Mark wiper motor rotates back/forth, thereby not descending the wipers all the way into the parking position?

 

[Kenz]

I hear you, but...

I wonder if they need to be installed without the tiny black plastic keys.

The Mark arms are angled differently. They point up from the anchor point, whereas MN12 go straight to the right, then up. I wonder if the small indent on the hub, where the black plastic key goes into, is positioned differently (?).

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Here is a picture of the mark wiper arms on mine. Been a few years but I do recall taking the keys out. -

 

[theterminator93]

Anyone?

I mean, in the MN12, my understanding is the motor only turns in one direction, while the wiper "transmission"/regulator produces the back/forth motion.

Assuming the wiper transmission in the Mark is the same, does that mean that the Mark wiper motor rotates back/forth, thereby not descending the wipers all the way into the parking position?

The transmission looks largely the same. The magic is in an extra piece on the wiper motor which shifts the armature slightly to park or unpark the arms.

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

Direct fit into MN12?

 

[1997ThunderbirdLXV6]

The transmission looks largely the same. The magic is in an extra piece on the wiper motor which shifts the armature slightly to park or unpark the arms.

Found this video. Interesting. I'd like this!