My <98k miles Bird is producing a slow rate clop schlop schlop clop sound when RPMs go low under load (e.g., in drive at a stop light). No noise in neutral or park and I don't hear it upon acceleration (RPM increase). There's no pinging, scraping, whining or whirring sound as if metal on metal. I can try to catch it on my phone if you need audio, but last time I tried (older phone, crummier mic), the noise was drowned out by the engine noise and the mic didn't pick it up well.
It doesn't do this until the tranny is warmed up. If I sit on the driveway with it cold and put it in drive with brakes applied, no noise. Drive it a couple miles and the noise is there when I'm stopped at a light.
I did the shift shudder TSB Mercon V swap out, including TC, a while back, BUT I didn't change it again after around 5-8k miles as recommended, and I still have shudder, which is the second issue at the moment.
There's no CEL or tranny codes on my scanner. Dipstick shows correct level, good color, no grit and no burnt smell. Nothing to suggest overheating. No hesitation on acceleration or other probs besides the old shudder.
1. Does this sound like it might be an early warning that the tranny pump is going?
2. Do you suppose doing another Mercon V change will at least eliminate the shudder at this point, or are my friction rings goners? I'll probably do the change anyway, since I already have all the Motorcraft fluid in my inventory, just wondered whether you've had success eliminating shudder after the 2nd fluid change when the 1st change didn't cure it.
3. If I still have shudder and schlop clop after the 2nd fluid swap, do you suppose adding friction modifier might help with these issues or am I past that point and it's time to kiss this tranny goodbye and install a rebuilt? I hate rebuilt parts, as I've had so many probs with them over the years. Almost nobody does it right. Alternators, a/c compressors, calipers, you name it, I've gotten shit quality rebuilts and had to swap them out again immediately. I hate to think of the probs I'll have with something as complex as an auto tranny, but if mine is done, I guess I'm SOL and will have to swap it.
It doesn't do this until the tranny is warmed up. If I sit on the driveway with it cold and put it in drive with brakes applied, no noise. Drive it a couple miles and the noise is there when I'm stopped at a light.
I did the shift shudder TSB Mercon V swap out, including TC, a while back, BUT I didn't change it again after around 5-8k miles as recommended, and I still have shudder, which is the second issue at the moment.
There's no CEL or tranny codes on my scanner. Dipstick shows correct level, good color, no grit and no burnt smell. Nothing to suggest overheating. No hesitation on acceleration or other probs besides the old shudder.
1. Does this sound like it might be an early warning that the tranny pump is going?
2. Do you suppose doing another Mercon V change will at least eliminate the shudder at this point, or are my friction rings goners? I'll probably do the change anyway, since I already have all the Motorcraft fluid in my inventory, just wondered whether you've had success eliminating shudder after the 2nd fluid change when the 1st change didn't cure it.
3. If I still have shudder and schlop clop after the 2nd fluid swap, do you suppose adding friction modifier might help with these issues or am I past that point and it's time to kiss this tranny goodbye and install a rebuilt? I hate rebuilt parts, as I've had so many probs with them over the years. Almost nobody does it right. Alternators, a/c compressors, calipers, you name it, I've gotten shit quality rebuilts and had to swap them out again immediately. I hate to think of the probs I'll have with something as complex as an auto tranny, but if mine is done, I guess I'm SOL and will have to swap it.