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The dumb hourglass windows gave it away for me. It's like a cheap knockoff of whatever D-pillar styling nonsense the Japanese have been up to the last ten years.

BMW :BMW:I think was the origin of that

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Then came the i8 and then Nissan applied it to everything and now Kia/Hyundai
 
Good riddance indeed.

Well, let's hope the occupants were unharmed.

I also admit, I generally love Korean products (though I never owned a Korean car myself). I think the Genesis G90, both current and previous generation, looks fantastic. I also like some of the Korean domestic market offerings such as this Hyundai Grandeur:

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Yeah they look good. I love Korea in general too. The designer of the Mark VIII interior is Korean afaik. I've seen a Kia Stinger I think twice in person, it's fun to spot one. Not sure I would be quick to own one though
 
BMW :BMW:I think was the origin of that

Then came the i8 and then Nissan applied it to everything and now Kia/Hyundai
That's because everything the Japanese do is already a cheap knockoff of something from Europe.

 
That's because everything the Japanese do is already a cheap knockoff of something from Europe.


Funny enough I’ve harbored a similar sentiment for years and been a fan of Top Gear for years but never saw that segment before, but I have a different take; The Japanese made what was exotic and notoriously fragile in Europe mass producible and reliable, the cars that inspired the MX5 or NSX or Nissan Z were basket case money pits out of the showroom. DOHC 4V 4 cylinders were not viable mass production engines until the Japanese showed they can be as reliable as an old school 2V Ohc or ohv. I mean look at the V6 Camry, a car as boring as it gets on the surface, but what makes it worse than a Taurus SHO in terms of output(which is an ironic ask given it’s whole top end is Yamaha). It lacks the specialty and uniqueness but it’s pretty much on par power delivery wise but will last a hell of a lot longer.

When it comes to car styling, even the most iconic American cars were copying Pininfarina/Bertone/Ghia in the golden age. The 55 Chevy is a Ferrari Front end, the tunnel back rear windows of 66-67 GM muscle cars, the 68-70 Charger the 68-76 Corvette and 71-73 Mustang and Cougar were emulating the Ferrari 250GTO. Hell even silly things like the roof stripes of the 71-72 Roadrunner emulated the vents of the Alfa Romeo Montreal. Our beloved MN12 Tbirds are an imitation of the E24 BMW 6 series with a little bit of W126 Mercedes Benz SEC and Audi 100(the 86 Taurus’s biggest influence) sprinkled in, and the designers/engineers were very open about it.

For me present day modern design is awful because it is so global and universal. There’s no culture, there’s no identity, it’s one faceless corporation’s multinational focus group finds a unique trait to approve of and the rest follow in earnest. Today there’s nothing I attribute to an American car or Japanese car or German car or Korean car (outside of their niche models which are largely dependent on retro nostalgic traits anyway). Now that literally everything is going the “SUV”(crossover) route it’s even more alike since you can’t really make a hatchback look all that different from the next outside of taillight design, so all automakers have left to separate themselves is in the front end which leads us to modern BMWs and others with ridiculously gaudy grilles to stand out among the sea of the same rounded tall two box shapes out there.
 
Funny enough I’ve harbored a similar sentiment for years and been a fan of Top Gear for years but never saw that segment before, but I have a different take; The Japanese made what was exotic and notoriously fragile in Europe mass producible and reliable, the cars that inspired the MX5 or NSX or Nissan Z were basket case money pits out of the showroom. DOHC 4V 4 cylinders were not viable mass production engines until the Japanese showed they can be as reliable as an old school 2V Ohc or ohv. I mean look at the V6 Camry, a car as boring as it gets on the surface, but what makes it worse than a Taurus SHO in terms of output(which is an ironic ask given it’s whole top end is Yamaha). It lacks the specialty and uniqueness but it’s pretty much on par power delivery wise but will last a hell of a lot longer.

When it comes to car styling, even the most iconic American cars were copying Pininfarina/Bertone/Ghia in the golden age. The 55 Chevy is a Ferrari Front end, the tunnel back rear windows of 66-67 GM muscle cars, the 68-70 Charger the 68-76 Corvette and 71-73 Mustang and Cougar were emulating the Ferrari 250GTO. Hell even silly things like the roof stripes of the 71-72 Roadrunner emulated the vents of the Alfa Romeo Montreal. Our beloved MN12 Tbirds are an imitation of the E24 BMW 6 series with a little bit of W126 Mercedes Benz SEC and Audi 100(the 86 Taurus’s biggest influence) sprinkled in, and the designers/engineers were very open about it.

For me present day modern design is awful because it is so global and universal. There’s no culture, there’s no identity, it’s one faceless corporation’s multinational focus group finds a unique trait to approve of and the rest follow in earnest. Today there’s nothing I attribute to an American car or Japanese car or German car or Korean car (outside of their niche models which are largely dependent on retro nostalgic traits anyway). Now that literally everything is going the “SUV”(crossover) route it’s even more alike since you can’t really make a hatchback look all that different from the next outside of taillight design, so all automakers have left to separate themselves is in the front end which leads us to modern BMWs and others with ridiculously gaudy grilles to stand out among the sea of the same rounded tall two box shapes out there.
Watch that entire episode. You and Clarkson share the same sentiment.
 
my 1980 suzuki's dohc heads look remarkably similar to the C- heads I have, except for the shim- based lash adjusters, Which Suck. If you use magnets near the adjusters, valve float will spit the shims out, leading to engine destruction. I demagnetize the top end If I work on them. Bike has power at 15k rpm.
 
been a fan of Top Gear for years but never saw that segment before

This is Clarkson's Car Years. Different program. Or shall I say, programme.

Our beloved MN12 Tbirds are an imitation of the E24 BMW 6 series with a little bit of W126 Mercedes Benz SEC and Audi 100(the 86 Taurus’s biggest influence) sprinkled in, and the designers/engineers were very open about it.

Too bad they didn't copy the 6er's rear vent windows:

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Fun fact about that generation Audi 100: long after German production had ended, that body as well as Audi V8 "lang" bodies were used for Hongqi limousines.

Audi:
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Hongqi:
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Another fun fact, that Audi V8 lang (=long) was extremely rare, costing 150,000 Mark as opposed to 100,000 Mark for the standard V8.

Oh, and here's another Hongqi limousine:
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Now that literally everything is going the “SUV”(crossover) route it’s even more alike since you can’t really make a hatchback look all that different from the next outside of taillight design, so all automakers have left to separate themselves is in the front end which leads us to modern BMWs and others with ridiculously gaudy grilles to stand out among the sea of the same rounded tall two box shapes out there.

Agreed. I mean they're also trying to differentiate their greenhouses, window treatments, etc., but overall the SUV body style limits design substantially. There are exceptions though. For example, the Atlas Cross Sport with its chopped off roof line is kind of unique in a masculine, chunky sort of way.
 
Didn't he do a 3-minute spiel on the Mark VIII on his old Motor World program? I seem to recall seeing that one where he (perhaps intentionally and sarcastically) said it had a 7 liter engine.
 
Don't forget about this guy... is he maybe related to twin turbo 281? :rofl:

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I have to admit even if the setup is functionally useless (although technically functions) kudos to the fabricators for actually plumbing that all together and making it work, the planning and design order that would need to go into that must be insane, truly a show of their fab abilities
 
4-Eye Fox Body at my work's parking lot. This is their DD. The bigger wheels in the back is a relatively new addition.

This person likes their late 80s - early 2000s Fords because in addition to this 4-Eye Fox, their other vehicles are a Country Squire, Taurus, and Expedition.

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This is Clarkson's Car Years. Different program. Or shall I say, programme.

Ahh that explains it!


Agreed. I mean they're also trying to differentiate their greenhouses, window treatments, etc., but overall the SUV body style limits design substantially. There are exceptions though. For example, the Atlas Cross Sport with its chopped off roof line is kind of unique in a masculine, chunky sort of way.

I mean yeah I guess by greenhouse the side window(s) shape can vary, but the basic silhouette of the vehicle is indistinguishable from the side view on the vast majority of crossovers, and really there are only so many ways to do even that. Part of it is aerodynamic considerations, for which I also hold contempt for.

Older meme but it’s not untrue

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4-Eye Fox Body at my work's parking lot. This is their DD. The bigger wheels in the back is a relatively new addition.

This person likes their late 80s - early 2000s Fords because in addition to this 4-Eye Fox, their other vehicles are a Country Squire, Taurus, and Expedition.

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Halfway through a 5 lug conversion it looks like.
 
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Did an ac delete today. Took me about an hour. Boy are these not fun to wiggle out. Definitely didnt shout dammit at the top of my lungs a few times..

Advice for any other newbies like me getting this off- loosen the 3 bolts and then slide it forward a little bit. Then you can disconnect the lines without trying to wiggle a 10mm wrench in there under the headers.

Extensions and swivels went the mile for this project. Thanks to anyone who has written up on removing the compressor. I did some looking around on the old site and here before the job
 
"Cheap" eggs are down to about 40¢ each here, they were @ 50¢ a few weeks ago. After Easter hopefully they get back towards their normal price.
 
I get the 18 pack, and at the height of pricing they were $14.89. now they're at the $10 range, but two 12 packs was cheaper by a lot, lol.
 
No, I have not noticed a price drop. I have also no noticed an egg shortage. Every store I go to has plenty of eggs. When I was in Costco a couple of weeks ago, they had 4-5 pallets of eggs in the cold room. I have not seen anyone standing in line outside of a store waiting to get eggs.
 
I guess Ohio is one of the big producers of eggs? :confused:

At any rate they're usually about $2/doz at the grocery store. They shot up to and peaked at about $6/doz for a few weeks, but there was never a shortage; last time I looked they were down to $5ish. We don't use eggs much though, maybe a dozen every 4-6 weeks.
 

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