Doomsday Thread Redux

[Chingon1]

Not everybody is as level headed as some in the US population. Many people easily fall for whatever they see and don’t use critical thinking to weed out what’s truth vs fiction. I do agree, seems like a false flag event. To push an agenda forward.

 

[Kenz]

I agree with you for the most part @Trunk Monkey

None of this should "start something". There are far too many in our country ready and eager to "start something" over anything.

If "something starts" I hope it's that the judges who let unstable criminals back on the streets can be held accountable. As should the politicians who are putting into place weak bail and release laws. Unstable criminals shouldn't be on the streets. The judge that let Decarlos Brown out should be partially responsible for Irynas death.

As far as Iryna's death; living in Charlotte I can tell you that it was all over the news here and quite the topic of conversation on the local message boards. Her death was not ignored by the media at all. It just took some time to reach the national news. As tragic as her death was the race of her killer should not be a point of focus. He was a homeless and mentally deranged individual (mental illness strikes all races). The biggest problem with him is that he had an extensive criminal record PRIOR to killing her - something like 13 previous arrests. He should have been off the street - in jail. In that the legal system failed her.

The national media was more than slow to pick up this situation, they ignored as long as possible. She was killed on the 22nd of last month. It was showing up on FB and Youtube a few weeks ago. It's just in the last few days hit the major networks; it couldn't be ignored any longer

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I agree with you for the most part @Trunk Monkey

If "something starts" I hope it's that the judges who let unstable criminals back on the streets can be held accountable. As should the politicians who are putting into place weak bail and release laws. Unstable criminals shouldn't be on the streets. The judge that let Decarlos Brown out should be partially responsible for Irynas death.

Absolutely there needs to be judicial reform and societal changes so that these dangerous, repeat offenders are taken and kept off the streets. I haven't looked into, and I'm not even sure that the details of his numerous arrests and the details surrounding how each of them were judicially handled are public.

Overall, there are a lot of factors affecting the "catch and release" turn-style of justice. There's so much to that topic that I'm not going to tackle it in depth here or I'd end up writing a book.

As far as mental health resources and the lack thereof, look closely at The Lanterman‑Petris‑Short (LPS) Act, 1967 (California), the Mental Health Systems Act (MHSA) of 1980, and the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 which repealed most of the MHSA's provisions leaving the mentally ill with no mental health services and causing many of them to end up in the legal system.

By no means am I justifying what happened. There needs to be reforms to prevent anything like this from ever happening again.

As Sam Kinison once said: "I don't condone it, I understand it!"

The national media was more than slow to pick up this situation, they ignored as long as possible. She was killed on the 22nd of last month. It was showing up on FB and Youtube a few weeks ago. It's just in the last few days hit the major networks; it couldn't be ignored any longer

To what end would quicker national coverage of the story have served?

To what end, aside from fueling conspiracy theories, would suppression of the story have served?

As I see it, the factors that make this murder more interesting to the general public are that a homeless, mentally unstable black man who fell through the cracks of our legal system killed a pretty, young, white woman from Ukraine. Unfortunately, people are murdered in this country every day, it doesn't always make the national news.

 

[Vicinity]

Besides that, there are a lot of other contributing problems related to the Charlotte light rail system, including but not limited to: lack of ticket enforcement and lack of police patrols at the stations and on the trains. Also, just to be clear, it was a light rail transport system and not a subway. Charlotte doesn't have subways.

Yes. This can be addressed... can't speak on anything else thats going on because the situations are so complex and out of my realm but this is somewhat simple. Took the light rail daily for years and years, and I loved it. I refuse now and as a result will not happily enter the city.

I remember being annoyed and paranoid about transit cops shaking you down for a 200 dollar ticket and a court date because you didn't purchase a 2.50 ticket that expires in 2 hours. It wasnt about the cost of the ticket, it was about the cost of missing that train, and possibly waiting 10 minutes to 1.5 hours for the next one. In many cases, missing a train would have meant you caught the other line that was FULL of people. You practically had to hug yourself to make room.

Small potatos now. No full trains. I have heard the enforcment is changing very recently... but the has been all gone. People who are desperate are able to accomplish desperate tasks at no cost, much faster and more ground covered

 

[MadMikeyL]

I have to say, this whole mental illness thing whenever these attacks happen is such BS. He is a violent criminal, full stop! No excuses or explanations. Obviously mentally ill people exist, but not all of them are violent, in fact most aren’t. On the other hand, anyone who would attack or kill someone without provocation clearly has something wrong with their brain. Normal people don’t think that way, and someone who does doesn’t need treatment or compassion, they need to be locked in a cage for the rest of their life. Calling violent attacks mental illness is a cop-out designed to make it seem as though he is not responsible or culpable for his actions. But he is. He is a parasite on society. And just like a parasite will feed until its host is dead, the approach of trying to feel sorry for these parasites is leading to a breakdown of society. And any media sources that call him “mentally ill” instead of “violent criminal” are at the very least complicit in this breakdown of society, or worse, organizing it intentionally. Don’t play that game.

 

[XR7-4.6]

Light rail is a joke. I remember when Denver put in those toy trains thinking this is a dumb urbanist pipe dream and lo and behold they have the same problems they all do, low ridership, no ticket enforcement, constant issues and of course sketchiness beyond belief. My uncle has a developmental disability but is an avid cyclist and basically had a free pass to ride them as part of his benefits, and fresh and new prior to “legalization” and the population influx that followed he’d ride them with his bike in tow but as times have changed there he’s just too vulnerable riding them alone.

A few years back when my grandma went into hospice (and pre Covid where it’s since gotten way worse) I took them around the city to site see as I’d not ever really had the chance to do on my visits as a kid, and there was not one but THREE people in a day shooting up in the cars I was in, and each was a nearly empty, weekday afternoon to evening, maybe 6 people tops! It was worse than the EL in Chicago, and I took that to a White Sox game once!

 

[Vicinity]

It is a joke now, but it was not. I wouldn't have been able to get my job to eventually afford the car, wouldn't have been able to meet up with other students at the park, independently watch a music gig and ride home at 1 AM, or safely get a ride back home from the bar that had far more networking opportunities than I do on the outskirts. It was ripe for a thriving social life and economy without moving downtown and paying 400 dollars a month for parking. I truly miss the visits to the city. But the city is compromised for many more reasons

 

[theterminator93]

It's amazing how different public transit is here vs. other nations (e.g. Japan or England). Over there the lines are kept clean, used by commuters, run like clockwork, are generally reliable and safe... no wonder so few people in this country have a positive opinion of it. We haven't figured it out.

 

[MadMikeyL]

It’s a cultural thing. Over there, it is just the accepted way of getting around. Here, it is a last resort, predominantly used by poor people who have no alternative. Nobody listens when they complain. But if the trains in Europe started going to hell, you can bet there would be a huge uproar of upper middle class businessmen with the means to fund any politicians who would fix it.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

It's amazing how different public transit is here vs. other nations (e.g. Japan or England). Over there the lines are kept clean, used by commuters, run like clockwork, are generally reliable and safe... no wonder so few people in this country have a positive opinion of it. We haven't figured it out.

Exactly what Mikey said + That's by design. The oil, gas, automotive and highway construction industries HATE public transportation for obvious reasons. They will, and have sabotaged public transportation efforts.

 

[Derphound01]

It's also why our cars have always (historically) sucked. Over there, public transit makes it so the car is a luxury item. If you're going to buy a luxury item, it has better be worth buying.

Over here, it's a necessity. So anything will do.

 

[Grog6]

I've gotten cars by hobson's choice; any car is better than no car. I've gone on a date on a cycle, but few girls will do that. :}

 

[Derphound01]

Absolutely there needs to be judicial reform and societal changes so that these dangerous, repeat offenders are taken and kept off the streets. I haven't looked into, and I'm not even sure that the details of his numerous arrests and the details surrounding how each of them were judicially handled are public.

I did read in the news that the judge who released the perp before the murder had never even passed the bar exam. NC is one of the few states where the judiciary isn't required to be bar certified. Starting there would be a great reform. If you can rule on the law, you need to be able to defend the law.

I also read on social media where said same judge also owned the drug treatment clinic he was assigned to go to as per the conditions of his release, but I don't know if that was ever confirmed.

 

[gunn]

I've gotten cars by hobson's choice; any car is better than no car. I've gone on a date on a cycle, but few girls will do that. :}

Motorcycle, Bicycle, Unicycle, or Tricyle?

 

[gunn]

Pics of of the latest Person of Interest in Charlie Kirk's shooting have been released.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-death-09-11-25#cmffuxfs800003b6tpgkbk78c

 

[Grog6]

I've taken a date on a picnic on the back of a motorcycle, both the dirt bike and street bike. Tn girls are hardcore!
I know a few awesome places, in the middle of nowhere, that are gorgeous places, perfect for getting nekkid.

 

[XR7-4.6]

Exactly what Mikey said + That's by design. The oil, gas, automotive and highway construction industries HATE public transportation for obvious reasons. They will, and have sabotaged public transportation efforts.

It’s half true with a but. All of the “public transportion” pre-automobile was operated by private businesses, often the railroads themselves. When the car was introduced ridership rapidly declined and since the infrastructure was evolving to tarmac for the automobile manufactures (GM) invested very heavily in diesel busses to replace the old rail operated trolleys to sell to mass transit operations just like they sold diesel locomotives to to replace steam engines. We all know and love Who Framed Roger Rabbit but in the US (and in the movie’s case Los Angeles) it was primarily just market forces that phased out the trolley systems modern light rail does a shitty impression of.

Subsidized public transit is a mostly modern invention after the private lines were divested by the private operators and they’re mostly miserable to ride because of it. America isn’t Europe, apart from dense east coast cities like NYC or Boston and my Chicago transit needs are basically apples and oranges to sprawled out western cities or even eastern suburbs, and those older cities have much more robust and well thought out transit systems that never went away. Trolleys(light rail) died an inevitable death because they shared roads with cars apart from their costly right of way branches that busses could replace with far less expense in tracks and overhead lines. So greed obviously has played a role, but sabotage? …until I see all of the well off mass transit proponents actually riding these projects they voted for themselves I’d say it’s natural forces that keep them shitty in the US, not just a grand conspiracy orchestrated by the evil corporations against the people’s will.

It's also why our cars have always (historically) sucked. Over there, public transit makes it so the car is a luxury item. If you're going to buy a luxury item, it has better be worth buying.

Over here, it's a necessity. So anything will do.

Historically being….. ???? and sucked how? I mean yeah, we don’t get certain cars sold in Japan or Europe that we’re envious of, but they didn’t get certain American cars either that they too are often envious of. It’s mostly just foreign intrigue, and just as someone in Japan might find out the hard way that a 67 Impala SS is literally unmaneuverable in tight Tokyo streets, the R32-R34 Skyline GTR half of American gearheads fawn over, this would be(and is) reality for most of them…

 

[Derphound01]

Historically being….. ???? and sucked how? I mean yeah, we don’t get certain cars sold in Japan or Europe that we’re envious of, but they didn’t get certain American cars either that they too are often envious of. It’s mostly just foreign intrigue, and just as someone in Japan might find out the hard way that a 67 Impala SS is literally unmaneuverable in tight Tokyo streets, the R32-R34 Skyline GTR half of American gearheads fawn over, this would be(and is) reality for most of them…

I'm not talking about the specialty models, I'm talking about the bread and butter models that most of the populations buy to daily drive.

Just look at the Ford global lineup in the 80s/90s/00s versus what the Ford USDM lineup was. They got the Scorpio/Granada, we got the LTD. They had the Fiesta, we had the Festiva and Aspire. They had the Escort, we had the... Escort. Ford hit a home run with the Taurus in 1986 and then proceeded to let that platform go unchanged for 20 years. We finally got the global Focus and all its bodystyle variants in 2000 only to be told we couldn't have the second gen and instead got a cheapened first gen coupe to replace the wagon.

GM was the same. We had all the J-body junk while Europe got the GM2900 platform. But at least GM would slap "Euro" badging on some of them to make us feel better.

Japan at least tried. Honda gave us the JDM Accord in the 80s/90s and sent over the fun models as Acuras. Nissan sent the Skyline sedan over as the G35. DSM also gave us some fun Mitsubishis.

Yes, Europe also had their clunkers (cough cough British Leyland). But for the most part, the global equivalents to USDM cars were better in ROW markets.

 

[XR7-4.6]

I'm not talking about the specialty models, I'm talking about the bread and butter models that most of the populations buy to daily drive.

Just look at the Ford global lineup in the 80s/90s/00s versus what the Ford USDM lineup was. They got the Scorpio/Granada, we got the LTD. They had the Fiesta, we had the Festiva and Aspire. They had the Escort, we had the... Escort. Ford hit a home run with the Taurus in 1986 and then proceeded to let that platform go unchanged for 20 years. We finally got the global Focus and all its bodystyle variants in 2000 only to be told we couldn't have the second gen and instead got a cheapened first gen coupe to replace the wagon.

GM was the same. We had all the J-body junk while Europe got the GM2900 platform. But at least GM would slap "Euro" badging on some of them to make us feel better.

Japan at least tried. Honda gave us the JDM Accord in the 80s/90s and sent over the fun models as Acuras. Nissan sent the Skyline sedan over as the G35. DSM also gave us some fun Mitsubishis.

Yes, Europe also had their clunkers (cough cough British Leyland). But for the most part, the global equivalents to USDM cars were better in ROW markets.

I'm not arguing that the domestics didn't put out junk, I thought you were referring to the whole of the American market, both foreign and domestic, sucking. I brought the GT-R in the mix simply to point out some of the cars captive to the JDM market aren't as appealing in reality as they look on a screen. The cars we get from Japan like the Accord were basically developed from scratch to fit the needs of the US market, same with the Camry etc. A lot of the reason the imported ones get pushed into the luxury sub brand unbrellas(besides the home markets not having these subbrands) is it's more efficient to manufacture loaded cars for export than have an ala carte option list as they actually did in Japan... Mercedes is the same way, they're only a luxury brand in the US because we didn't officially get the taxi spec E classes with cloth interiors and manual everything.

A big reason domestic compacts largely sucked is related to this, they had to compete with imports that were better values and the only way to compete was in lower cost, which made them less profitable and is why engineering shortcuts, decontenting, cutting manufacturing expense(like skipping generational updates in favor of shallow restyles) etc plagued them. US manufacturers still operated with the notion for years(and still do) that compacts are starter cars where customers will eventually trade up to something bigger and better they offer.

 

[Chingon1]

Larry Silverstein also put a massive insurance policy a couple months before the 9/11 accident happened, very convenient.

Also how does a whole building fall Str8 down? Aka building 7??

How did one of the high jackers passport magically/conveniently fall out of the plane while everything else burned up??

How come they never found weapons of mass destruction??

Whenever Fear tactics are used people are a lot more inclined to agree to whatever resolution and finger blaming is thrust upon them.

I’m one of those that doesn’t believe the official story.

Obviously the people who died that die is a terrible loss, plenty of families were broken apart. All lost human life is a terrible thing. May we find them true justice and blame the correct people in this act.


Also on the Charlie Kirk situation, in the last days of his life he was speaking out against Israel, which was kind of weird because he was a BIG supporter of them before.

14K views · 3.6K reactions | When all the world is a stage you have to question everything. #think | D. Rowe Nonchalant

When all the world is a stage you have to question everything. #think.

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Just like Candace Owen’s, she was also fired a while back from the daily wire and has been very outspoken about them.

 

[XR7-4.6]

Larry Silverstein also put a massive insurance policy a couple months before the 9/11 accident happened, very convenient.

Also how does a whole building fall Str8 down? Aka building 7??

How did one of the high jackers passport magically/conveniently fall out of the plane while everything else burned up??

How come they never found weapons of mass destruction??

Whenever Fear tactics are used people are a lot more inclined to agree to whatever resolution and finger blaming is thrust upon them.

I’m one of those that doesn’t believe the official story.

Obviously the people who died that die is a terrible loss, plenty of families were broken apart. All lost human life is a terrible thing. May we find them true justice and blame the correct people in this act.


Also on the Charlie Kirk situation, in the last days of his life he was speaking out against Israel, which was kind of weird because he was a BIG supporter of them before.

14K views · 3.6K reactions | When all the world is a stage you have to question everything. #think | D. Rowe Nonchalant

When all the world is a stage you have to question everything. #think.

www.facebook.com

Just like Candace Owen’s, she was also fired a while back from the daily wire and has been very outspoken about them.

We know the real truth about 9/11, Brother

 

[Chingon1]

@XR7-4.6 macho man would like to have a world for you