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Kurt K said:
Thanks. There's 2 more in the garage that didn't participate--a 35th Anniversary and a 95 SC, both 5 speeds.
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Honestly, thank you for keeping these cars from going to the junk yard. If you didn't have them, they might end up on RoadKill and then the junk yard. People tend to drive these cars into the ground till they break something really stupid and then don't take the time or money to fix it. It then ends up eBay or Facebook and becomes a parts car.
 
White Lincoln said:
People tend to drive these cars into the ground till they break something really stupid and then don't take the time or money to fix it.
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Yes, but...

Isn't that any car this age? Not including the elusive low-mileage collector's car. For most people, an older car is simply an inexpensive use item, to be replaced with another inexpensive use item when necessary.

It's a shame because MN12 makes driving an older car as a daily so pleasurable. [Insert obligatory knock on wood here.] On every off ramp, I think to myself: wow, the way this thing goes through a curve with such confidence, no pushing the tires sideways, it's amazing; the way this thing accelerates with a sort of torquey nonchalance, it feels truly luxurious to me.

But others, most others, just see an old car.
 
1997ThunderbirdLXV6 said:
It's a shame because MN12 makes driving an older car as a daily so pleasurable. [Insert obligatory knock on wood here]

But others, most others, just see an old car.
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One reason we still have the Cougar is my wife loves how comfortable it is to drive in. Now the Town Car is much better, but to her it is just a huge boat and just too big for her. The Cougar is "just her size".

And I do get that from people, mainly my family. "Why are still driving that old car? Why don't you get a new car?"

They just don't understand what it means when you have torn into almost every aspect of the car and put your sweat and soul into fixing this thing up to be the car you love.

They just don't understand!
 
White Lincoln said:
And I do get that from people, mainly my family. "Why are still driving that old car? Why don't you get a new car?"
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theterminator93 said:
he was somewhat aghast and commented that I "could afford" something newer. :facepalm:
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I like lots of new cars; I have nothing against them. But there's some truth to that old line: they don't make 'em like that anymore.

New cars don't feel the same. I remember test driving a new Mustang. It had a 10-speed automatic. It shifted ALL THE TIME; it was so annoying. My car just cruises along, with the occasional shift every now and then...
 
theterminator93 said:
I told a guy who was a part of a site survey we did today that my car was 28 years old, and he was somewhat aghast and commented that I "could afford" something newer. :facepalm:
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My response would be “if I could afford something newer I’d buy something even older” 😎
 
1997ThunderbirdLXV6 said:
I like lots of new cars; I have nothing against them. But there's some truth to that old line: they don't make 'em like that anymore.

New cars don't feel the same. I remember test driving a new Mustang. It had a 10-speed automatic. It shifted ALL THE TIME; it was so annoying. My car just cruises along, with the occasional shift every now and then...
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I fundamentally cannot enjoy a car that has a BCM/CAN network and LCD screens. Makes them as disposable as an iPhone 5
 
1997ThunderbirdLXV6 said:
Yes, but...I do like backup cameras. So I'm not entirely anti-screens.
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I like them in new cars too, because of course new cars have abysmal rear visibility.

Those can be retrofitted too if you really wanted one, they make plate frames with backup cams integrated, I actually tested one for my Dad’s old company for a few months. My thing is how fundamentally married everything is in modern cars, it’s not as simple as deleting a feature you don’t need/use, if you try that with most things you’ll potentially brick your $50,000 appliance. You can add pretty much everything a modern car has to an old car, be it that, LCD screens, even the modern power trains with standalone controllers for VVT. Going the opposite way hell you might fail state emissions/inspection of you dared try bringing a modern Mustang or Challenger to 90s level electronic tech.

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I kinda like the “suddenly it’s 1998” time traveler vibes with it beside a 90s Jetta 😂

Wow I had an epiphany, I probably started noticing MN12s as a wee lad sitting in the seat of my Mom’s similarly red Jetta in 1998!
 
I cannot stand new cars! Backup cameras promote an extremely bad habit of not looking where the fuck you are going! Same thing with adaptive cruise control, lane assist, and automatic braking! The interdependence of all the various modules on each other makes the entire system vulnerable to any one of them failing, and also make diagnostics 10x more difficult. I don’t need a computer to control the windows, or the seats, or the headlights of taillights, or the doors, or the windshield wipers! The only thing worse than schizophrenic 8 and 10-speed transmissions that are can never pick a fucking gear are the soul-sucking CVTs that never shift! The lag from drive-by-wire throttle control if flat out dangerous! Not only is that the cause of murderous Mustangs, but if someone pulls out in front of you while you are accelerating, it is extremely pucker-inducing trying to stand on the brakes while the computer keeps accelerating you toward catastrophe…because emissions! The lack of a manual transmission option on almost all new cars is bad enough, but now these push-button or twist-knob shifters are a new level of retarded! Hey guys, let’s make a shifter that doesn’t do jack shit when the electrical is dead making it impossible to tow the car, and make sure the override for that requires disassembling half the interior to get to a cable that you have to pull which we could have just connected to the shifter in the first place but fuck the people that want to fix our shit they should just drop $80k on a new one every 4 years. Speaking of which, why the hell are all the manufacturers having oil consumption and camshaft failures? Those issues were fixed 40 years ago! I guess now that everything has to look like the same amorphous jellybean crossover vehicle, flattened cam lobes are the new retro fad!
 
@MadMikeyL , tell us how you really feel!

I can see it both ways. I enjoy a lot of modern technology under one condition: if it operates whichever feature automatically in the same manner as I would operate it manually. For example, I like automatic climate control; I also like wiper activated headlights and automatic high beams.

Unfortunately many of these features do a pretty bad job replicating how I would operate a feature. I definitely wouldn't shift gears every three seconds.
 
I went to a Cars and Coffee here in town on Saturday. It was neat. Lots of cool cars. Some cars were just like "Why?!"

This guy (or gal?) wsan't at the event, but parked just outside. Still cool to see.

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This is cool.

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No pics of it, but my favorite car there I want to say was the Lotus Exige.

I want to eventually take my T-Bird there when it's back on the road.

^^ Related...No pics of my car, but towards the end the event, a guy in an older Chevy truck....1955-ish?....needed a jump. I offered to jump and drove my car into the event area. After some time, some of the Honda guys in the event approached me (I was in my Honda, of course) and we started shooting the shit. Eventually, I asked, "How do you pass smog?" because their cars would obviously not pass. They gave me their info, and all I need to do is just KIT with these guys. And that right there is how I believe I've come to resolve my T-Bird "issue" here in CA! :D
 
1997ThunderbirdLXV6 said:
I like lots of new cars; I have nothing against them. But there's some truth to that old line: they don't make 'em like that anymore.

New cars don't feel the same. I remember test driving a new Mustang. It had a 10-speed automatic. It shifted ALL THE TIME; it was so annoying. My car just cruises along, with the occasional shift every now and then...
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YES Like a shark sliding thru the hood looking for an opportunity. Not loud and obnoxious (stock exhaust) just a low steady burble as it tools around town. I would have driven it a million miles back when I would cruise all around town from town. That's why I am at 362k miles and try to drive it EVERY DAY!
 
I've settled my differences between the 11th gen, except for the cost
 
Rodeo Joe said:
Really taking your chances parking next to that shopping cart corral Matt! 😬

Joe
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It was actually a good remote parking spot(the one cart in the corral was the one I put in there) until some airhead in a shitty crossover decided to park right up next to my car.
 
Don't get me started! OMG, it's like my old cars are door magnets for idiots! I think I mentioned before how I keep finding marks on the corners of my bumpers where people keep hitting my car when they try to park in or drive out of a parking space. I do have a handicap placard (I earned that!) and use it more now just to avoid those fucking idiots that should not be behind the wheel of a car.

(dang, Mikey wore off on me today)
 
MadMikeyL said:
I cannot stand new cars! Backup cameras promote an extremely bad habit of not looking where the fuck you are going! Same thing with adaptive cruise control, lane assist, and automatic braking! The interdependence of all the various modules on each other makes the entire system vulnerable to any one of them failing, and also make diagnostics 10x more difficult. I don’t need a computer to control the windows, or the seats, or the headlights of taillights, or the doors, or the windshield wipers! The only thing worse than schizophrenic 8 and 10-speed transmissions that are can never pick a fucking gear are the soul-sucking CVTs that never shift! The lag from drive-by-wire throttle control if flat out dangerous! Not only is that the cause of murderous Mustangs, but if someone pulls out in front of you while you are accelerating, it is extremely pucker-inducing trying to stand on the brakes while the computer keeps accelerating you toward catastrophe…because emissions! The lack of a manual transmission option on almost all new cars is bad enough, but now these push-button or twist-knob shifters are a new level of retarded! Hey guys, let’s make a shifter that doesn’t do jack shit when the electrical is dead making it impossible to tow the car, and make sure the override for that requires disassembling half the interior to get to a cable that you have to pull which we could have just connected to the shifter in the first place but fuck the people that want to fix our shit they should just drop $80k on a new one every 4 years. Speaking of which, why the hell are all the manufacturers having oil consumption and camshaft failures? Those issues were fixed 40 years ago! I guess now that everything has to look like the same amorphous jellybean crossover vehicle, flattened cam lobes are the new retro fad!
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Preach on brother! I've been driving my '91 Crown Vic for the last week and a half since some guy ran me off the road on my way to work last Monday. It really annoys me when the CAN bus wigs out on it and turns off my lane assist and....nope. Mechanical fuel pump, carburetor, some sort of electronic ignition distributor designed in the mid 70's that supposedly wasn't still being installed on cars in 1991 - check. Maybe if that guy that pulled out in front of me in my Saturn had all of that electronic crap working on his truck I wouldn't have had to put it into the curb and be dealing with a bent front subframe now.
 
Vicinity said:
Does lane assist also assist drivers in texting while driving? Never used it
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Unfortunately yes. Ford's system is smart enough to trigger a coffe break alert if you take your eyes off the road for too long.
 
My first experience with any of the driving aids was in a Turo rental I drove while we were in Oregon last year. I had the cruise set for 75, and to my surprise it decided to abruptly slow down ahead of a moderate curve on the interstate. It also did weird things all the time because it "thought" I was out of my lane (which I never was). You can bet I shut that crap off as soon as I figured out how!

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